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Hit Another Home Run... This time with WMT
Posted by: vooch (IP Logged)
Date: November 17, 2009 10:25PM
Yesterday, it was disclosed Warren Buffett increased his stake in Wal-Mart (WMT). WMT is the largest position in my portfolio. I am so happy I hit another home run! - Vooch Stocks Discussed: WMT,
Re: Hit Another Home Run... This time with WMT
Posted by: vooch (IP Logged)
Date: November 17, 2009 11:20PM
I looked up the last 2 times I calculated Intrinsic Value for WMT: 4/12/09 $95.84/share 8/1/09 $117.47/share These were my purchases across all accounts for 2009 for WMT: 8/3/09 $49.747537/share 8/5/09 $49.27/share (the big purchase) 8/6/09 $49.00/share 9/25/09 $49.725/share Again, I think Buffett is paying less than 50 cents on the dollar (just like he did with BNI, recently). - Vooch Stocks Discussed: WMT,
WMT is NOT worth $117+
Posted by: stockdocx99 (IP Logged)
Date: November 18, 2009 06:07AM
To say that long-term intrinsic value changed by 22.57% between April 12 and August 1 shows how ludicrous your technique for measuring value has to be.
True value could not change that radically in so short a time with any legitimate system. No company the size of WMT could have its real value change that much in 3.6 months. Your $117.47 number would be an unlikely 30x next fiscal year's consensus estimate. WMT hasn't traded at that a valuation since 2002. ********************************************************************************* Claiming to have 'Hit a Home Run' simply because Buffett bought ignores his huge holdings in many losers like MCO and USG. Your expected target seems way too optimistic. I like WMT and have written it up here as a good buy in the $40's but your claim of a major victory seems premature with the shares less than 10% above your cost basis in a bull market that has taken many other stocks up much more since your purchase dates. [www.BeatingBuffett.com] Stocks Discussed: WMT,
Re: Hit Another Home Run... This time with WMT
Posted by: Sivaram (IP Logged)
Date: November 18, 2009 11:11AM
vooch Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Again, I think Buffett is paying less than 50 > cents on the dollar (just like he did with BNI, > recently). > > How do you justify that BNSF is 50% below intrinsic value? Can you explain a bit? --------- Check out my investing blog - contrarian with a macro focus and a value investing tilt: Can Turtles Fly? A Contrarian Investing Blog. Stocks Discussed: WMT,
Re: Hit Another Home Run... This time with WMT
Posted by: abecfilms (IP Logged)
Date: November 18, 2009 03:35PM
Vooch: I'm impressed. Could you detail a little about how much you added during the 4th quarter vs. how much you already owned, and/or whether you had been buying it for the last year or for how long. Where did your Wal-mart purchase fit into your total purchases during the last quarter or two, in terms of size/portfolio allocation, etc. I would also be interested to know if this has happened to you (materially) with Buffet previously on a demonstrated non-random basis, and if you could give some examples. I also would be interested to hear about this kind of thing from others on this board - - have you repeatedly made material purchases/changes to your portfolio simultaneously with Buffet excluding BNI (I assume everybody owned that.) or other similar examples I believe WMT also was a Buffet advised purchase, and not purely a Lou Simpson deal due to its large size, but then maybe Lou is getting to make bigger bets these days. Any and all feedback appreciated. I know I am asking for somewhat confidential info. Thanks. Stocks Discussed: WMT,
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