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  • MritikCapital 2013-05-13 10:17
    cdubey: I understand that the note give you better safety in case the company files for bankruptcy i.e., they come prior to equity holders, and offer you a co
    Hi Chandan,
    Thanks for your thoughts. If shares rise significantly by Jan 2016, common does provide more upside.

    Cheers
  • MritikCapital 2013-05-13 08:03
    Hi Chandan,

    What is your preference of MTCN vs MT? The company is a tough business but I am willing to dig further to see if there may be a reasonable risk reward proposition here.
  • MritikCapital 2013-04-26 13:31
    cdubey : A company which I am watching very closely. I have sold a Jan 2015 put at strike price $57.5 for $7.34. The reason is that my target buy price is $60. Thanks for sharing the thoughts. Yes makes sense. I really like the management and the fact that they grown the company using organic cashflow and clear the debt after acquisitions. I too am comfortable with a larger position at $50-$55 range (close to book value as well). I think once they don't see too many avenues for growth they ...
  • MritikCapital 2013-04-26 10:16
    Hi Chandan, What is your take on $65 for NOV today? They seem to have a wide moat business, reasonable financial strength and a backlog. Your thoughts appreciated.
  • ry.zamora 2012-07-16 13:58
    Chandan, I've been reading the few articles you've written on Holcim, Ltd., and I've liked it enough that I have begun a full-blown analysis of its business (and needless to say, I'm impressed with Holcim's consistent and evolving levels of transparency!) I just want to ask you about your pie chart in the Feb 27 2012 article on the cement industry. The one containing cement production and cement capacity on a global scale. I've tried running a search on Google to find a statistical dat ...

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  • cdubey commented on Chandan Dubey's article 05-23 23:39
    A Dissenting Review of 'The Outsiders' by Thorndike
    "The Outsiders" is a book which was published at the end of 2012 and has been recommended by Charlie Munger. The book is the result of a flawed...
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    cdubey 05-24 00:39
    • You have convinced me that KPN was probably not a great example. I don't have an example to replace it either.

      I repeat the lines (from you) which I completely agree with.

      >Not trying to fight and I still agree the method is flawed. I agree with you in that: Not all management >that is shareholder friendly will produce above average results. Especially if the business or industry >are bad or in a phase of obsolescence. But if you find a company that has a durable moat in a good >industry, how management allocates capital will impact your investment return. And if they allocate it >by giving back to share holders as dividends or share repurchases when prices are low, that >generally will enhance your investment returns.

      And add some more lines.

      Being great at anything involves a lot of luck. It takes ability for sure -- but luck is pretty important too. The book underplays its contribution.

      *Any* decision has a chance of looking wrong at the benefit of hindsight. And I mean *any*. Should you acquire, or not acquire a company. Should you pay debt or buyback stock. Should you pay dividend or not. Should you spinoff, sell for cash or sell for stock. Every one of these decisions may come back to bite you -- even if you made them correctly depending on the information you had at the time.

      There are times when you make the wrong choice -- even when you had the necessary data to make the correct one. These are avoidable and might contribute positively to your performance.

      But there are times that a decision which was correct soured because of changing conditions. If a CEO does not need to make these kind of decisions often -- he might be better off than the one who had to. Because sooner or later the luck turns.

      It is true that the virtues extolled by the book may lead you to find good CEOs and better investment candidates -- and probably that is the major contribution. But there is no discussion on how the ability of the CEO is only part of the picture. And even a great CEO may fail if luck turns against him.
  • cdubey commented on Chandan Dubey's article 05-23 15:07
    A Dissenting Review of 'The Outsiders' by Thorndike
    "The Outsiders" is a book which was published at the end of 2012 and has been recommended by Charlie Munger. The book is the result of a flawed...
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    cdubey 05-23 16:07
    • Thank you for your comment. You do offer good evidence as to why the example was not great. My point about the flawed research still stands - even when there are no examples.

      I will like to defend my example though.

      First, at least one example was of a company that actually had flat revenues. I think that was Ralston Purina. The CEO did acquire new companies to boost the revenue but that was not the point. In any case, the whole argument of the book is exactly about not trying to measure a company by revenue but cash flows. In this regard, my example still stands.

      In a similar vein, net income is not a good measure for profitability. Especially for a company with large cap-ex and good cash flows. Such a company can take on debt and manage the interest expense quite well. An example of such a company will be National Grid. They have huge debt but very predictable cash flows.
  • Chandan Dubey posts: 05-23 09:43
    A Dissenting Review of 'The Outsiders' by Thorndike
    "The Outsiders" is a book which was published at the end of 2012 and has been recommended by Charlie Munger. The book is the result of a flawed research method. The method goes as follows. Say you are interested in finding what makes people self-made...
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  • cdubey commented on batbeer2's article 05-23 07:09
    Value Idea Contest - PostNL at 3x Earnings
    PostNL (PNL) is the Dutch postal service. By law, the company may charge $0.60 for carrying a letter from Breda to Borger. The U.S. postal service...
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    cdubey 05-23 08:09
    • Something to know.

      An important factor in re-establishing PostNL's targeted BBB+ / Baa1 credit rating will be a reduction of the outstanding debt, using part of the proceeds from a gradual sale of the 29.8% shareholding in TNT Express, thereby improving the financial ratios.
  • cdubey commented on batbeer2's article 05-23 03:42
    Value Idea Contest - PostNL at 3x Earnings
    PostNL (PNL) is the Dutch postal service. By law, the company may charge $0.60 for carrying a letter from Breda to Borger. The U.S. postal service...
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    cdubey 05-23 04:42
    • @Batbeer2: Thank you. I will give it a closer look. I actually find 3 companies interesting at the moment. Jakk, Bouygues and PostNL. I will probably end up picking just one.

      Thanks for the idea.
  • cdubey commented on batbeer2's article 05-23 00:11
    Value Idea Contest - PostNL at 3x Earnings
    PostNL (PNL) is the Dutch postal service. By law, the company may charge $0.60 for carrying a letter from Breda to Borger. The U.S. postal service...
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    cdubey 05-23 01:11
    • The company has €1.6 bn in long term debt. The EV will be at least €2.4 bn ? Can you please say something about the balance sheet and the pension liabilities i.e., how much are we actually paying ?
  • cdubey commented on Intelligent Speculator's article 05-22 10:10
    Dividend Yield on Cost Is Irrelevant
    There are some expressions used that I just don’t get. Maybe it’s me that’s way off, or maybe those that mention it don’t know what they’re...
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    cdubey 05-22 11:10
    • This (your arguments) could as well be generalized to argue that what you pay for a stock is irrelevant *after* you have completed the purchase.

      I don't see the relation to dividend. Nevertheless, the overall emphasis on "value" instead of "cost" is something we all should strive for.
  • cdubey commented on Chandan Dubey's article 05-13 08:24
    Value Idea Update: ArcelorMittal (MT)
    ArcelorMittal (MT) is the world’s largest integrated steel and mining company. It is a result of a merger between Mittal Steel and Arcelor, which...
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    cdubey 05-13 09:24
    • @Nicolas73: I am building my position. I now hold 800 shares.

      @MritikCapital: I understand that the note give you better safety in case the company files for bankruptcy i.e., they come prior to equity holders, and offer you a confirmed dividend yield of 6% -- which is not too shabby. The downside is that you may have to buy shares between $16.75-$20.94, depending on the price of the shares around the maturity.

      I am not betting on MT going bankrupt. The shares trade for $13. I will buy the shares instead of the convertible at these prices.
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