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Ciena (CIEN) Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)

: 2.87 (As of Jan. 2024)
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In 1986 Berkshire Hathaway Shareholder Letter, Warren Buffett defined owner earnings as follows:

"These represent (a) reported earnings plus (b) depreciation, depletion, amortization, and certain other non-cash charges...less (c) the average annual amount of capitalized expenditures for plant and equipment, etc. that the business requires to fully maintain its long-term competitive position and its unit volume (If the business requires additional working capital to maintain its competitive position and unit volume, the increment also should be included in (c))...Our owner-earnings equation does not yield the deceptively precise figures provided by GAAP, since (c) must be a guess - and one sometimes very difficult to make. Despite this problem, we consider the owner earnings figure, not the GAAP figure, to be the relevant item for valuation purposes - both for investors in buying stocks and for managers in buying entire businesses...All of this points up the absurdity of the 'cash flow' numbers that are often set forth in Wall Street reports. These numbers routinely include (a) plus (b) - but do not subtract (c)."

Ciena's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) ended in Jan. 2024 was $2.87. It's Price-to-Owner-Earnings ratio for today is 15.34.


The historical rank and industry rank for Ciena's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) or its related term are showing as below:

CIEN' s Price-to-Owner-Earnings Range Over the Past 10 Years
Min: 2.59   Med: 32.48   Max: 471.7
Current: 15.38


During the past 13 years, the highest Price-to-Owner-Earnings ratio of Ciena was 471.70. The lowest was 2.59. And the median was 32.48.


CIEN's Price-to-Owner-Earnings is ranked better than
51.81% of 1133 companies
in the Hardware industry
Industry Median: 16.86 vs CIEN: 15.38

Ciena's Earnings per Share (Diluted) for the three months ended in Jan. 2024 was $0.34. Its Earnings per Share (Diluted) for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Jan. 2024 was $1.54. It's PE Ratio ratio for today is 28.59.

Ciena's EPS without NRI for the three months ended in Jan. 2024 was $0.39. Its EPS without NRI for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Jan. 2024 was $2.15. It's PE Ratio without NRI ratio for today is 20.46.


Ciena Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Historical Data

The historical data trend for Ciena's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) can be seen below:

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.

* Premium members only.

Ciena Annual Data
Trend Oct14 Oct15 Oct16 Oct17 Oct18 Oct19 Oct20 Oct21 Oct22 Oct23
Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only 1.48 1.85 2.22 -2.45 -0.55

Ciena Quarterly Data
Apr19 Jul19 Oct19 Jan20 Apr20 Jul20 Oct20 Jan21 Apr21 Jul21 Oct21 Jan22 Apr22 Jul22 Oct22 Jan23 Apr23 Jul23 Oct23 Jan24
Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only -3.87 -3.12 -1.76 -0.55 2.87

Competitive Comparison

For the Communication Equipment subindustry, Ciena's Price-to-Owner-Earnings, along with its competitors' market caps and Price-to-Owner-Earnings data, can be viewed below:

* Competitive companies are chosen from companies within the same industry, with headquarter located in same country, with closest market capitalization; x-axis shows the market cap, and y-axis shows the term value; the bigger the dot, the larger the market cap. Note that "N/A" values will not show up in the chart.


Ciena Price-to-Owner-Earnings Distribution

For the Hardware industry and Technology sector, Ciena's Price-to-Owner-Earnings distribution charts can be found below:

* The bar in red indicates where Ciena's Price-to-Owner-Earnings falls into.



Ciena Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Calculation

In 1986 Berkshire Hathaway Shareholder Letter, Warren Buffett defined owner earnings as follows:

"These represent (a) reported earnings plus (b) depreciation, depletion, amortization, and certain other non-cash charges...less (c) the average annual amount of capitalized expenditures for plant and equipment, etc. that the business requires to fully maintain its long-term competitive position and its unit volume. (If the business requires additional working capital to maintain its competitive position and unit volume, the increment also should be included in (c))...Our owner-earnings equation does not yield the deceptively precise figures provided by GAAP, since (c) must be a guess - and one sometimes very difficult to make. Despite this problem, we consider the owner earnings figure, not the GAAP figure, to be the relevant item for valuation purposes - both for investors in buying stocks and for managers in buying entire businesses...All of this points up the absurdity of the 'cash flow' numbers that are often set forth in Wall Street reports. These numbers routinely include (a) plus (b) - but do not subtract (c)."

To make it simple, then you will have:

Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) = (Net Income + Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization + Change In Deferred Tax - 5Y Average of Maintenance Capital Expenditure + Change In Working Capital) / Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average)

Ciena's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Calculation:

TTM / Last Quarter Average of Last 20 Quarters
Net Income 228
Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization 142
Change In Deferred Tax -12
5Y Average of Maintenance Capital Expenditure 66
Change In Working Capital 126
Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average) 146

1. Start with "Net Income" from income statement. Ciena's Net Income for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Jan. 2024 was $228 Mil.

2. "Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization" is from cashflow statement. Ciena's Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Jan. 2024 was $142 Mil. This needs to be added back because company does not actually need to pay cash for it. It is a non-cash item.

3. Other non-cash charges usually include "Stock Based Compensation" and "Change In Deferred Tax":
However, to be conservative, GuruFocus will not add Stock Based Compensation back to net income. Ciena's Change In Deferred Tax for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Jan. 2024 was $-12 Mil.

4. Average maintenance capital expenditure over a business/industry cycle: 5-Year Average Maintenance Capital Expenditure = $66 Mil

It is usually best to take a long-term average of maintenance capital expenditure. Ideally this would be as long as 10 years and include at least one economic downturn. However, since many companies do not have as long as 10-year history, here GuruFocus uses the latest 5 years data to do the calculation. To smooth out unusual years but reflect recent developments, we take an average of the 5 year maintenance capital expenditure.

The following shows how to get maintenance capital expenditure.

First, calculate the revenue change regarding to the previous quarter. If the revenue decreased from the previous quarter, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive).
Second, if the revenue increased from the previous quarter, then calculate the percentage of Net PPE as of corresponding Revenue.
Growth Capital Expenditure = Percentage of Property, Plant and Equipment as of corresponding Revenue * Revenue Increase
Third, calculate Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure.
If [Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure] was negative, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive).
If [Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure] was positive, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure.
Fourth, get the average of the 5 years maintenance capital expenditure.

Ciena's 5-Year Average Maintenance Capital Expenditure = $66 Mil

5. "Change In Working Capital" is from cashflow statement. Ciena's Change In Working Capital for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Jan. 2024 was $126 Mil.
Note: GuruFocus' Change in Working Capital is provided by Morningstar. It is calculated by adding the items under "Change in operating assets and liabilities" (may refer to a different name for different company) section in Cash Flow Statement from original financial report. And sometimes it includes non-current parts of assets and liabilities.

6. Ciena's Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average) for the months ended in Jan. 2024 was 145.848 Mil.

Ciena's Onwer Earnings Per Share for Jan. 2024 is calculated as:

Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
=( Net Income+Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization+Change In Deferred Tax
=( 228.133 +142.471+-11.973
-5Y Avg of Maintenance CAPEX+Change In Working Capital )/Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average)
-66.348731422576+125.534)/145.848
=2.87

Price-to-Owner-Earnings=Current Price/Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
=44.03/2.87
=15.34

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.


Be Aware

Assumption: Companies usually do not report maintenance capital expenditures and growth capital expenditures separately. Here we use estimated numbers and average them over 5 years. The method to estimate maintenance capital expenditures can be found in above part 4.

Note: GuruFocus' Change In Working Capital is provided by Morningstar. It is calculated by adding the items under "Change in operating assets and liabilities" (may refer to a different name for different company) section in Cash Flow Statement from original financial report. And it includes non-current parts of assets and liabilities.


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Ciena (CIEN) Business Description

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7035 Ridge Road, Hanover, MD, USA, 21076
Ciena Corp is a network and technology company. It provides network hardware, software, and services that support the transport, switching, aggregation, service delivery, and management of video, data, and voice traffic on communications networks. It serves various industries such as communication services providers, web-scale providers, cable operators, government, and large enterprises world-wide. The business activities function through Networking Platforms; Platform Software and Services; Blue Planet Automation Software, and Global Services segments. Geographically, its presence is seen in the markets of the United States, Canada, the Caribbean, Latin America, Europe, the Middle East, Africa, the Asia Pacific, Japan, and India. The maximum revenue is generated from Americas.
Executives
David M Rothenstein officer: Sr. VP, General Counsel 7035 RIDGE ROAD, HANOVER MD 21076
Gary B Smith director, officer: President, CEO C/O CIENA CORPORATION, 7035 RIDGE ROAD, HANOVER MD 21076
Brodie Gage officer: SVP Global Products & Supply 2351 ALFRED-NOBEL BLVD, SUITE N-300, SAINT LAURENT A8 H4S 2A9
Dino Diperna officer: SVP Global R&D 385 TERRY FOX DR, OTTAWA A6 K2K OL1
Jason Phipps officer: SVP Global Sales and Marketing 7410 RIDGE RD, HANOVER MD 21076
Joseph Cumello officer: SVP, General Mgr. Blue Planet 7035 RIDGE RD, HANOVER MD 21076
Scott Mcfeely officer: SVP, Networking Platforms 7035 RIDGE RD, HANOVER MD 21076
Mary G Puma director AXCELIS TECHNOLOGIES INC., 108 CHERRY HILL DRIVE, BEVERLY MA 01915
Andrew C Petrik officer: VP, CONTROLLER 7035 RIDGE ROAD, HANOVER MD 21076
Sheela Kosaraju officer: SVP, General Counsel 43-51 WORSHIP ST, LONDON X0 EC2A 2DX
Stephen B Alexander officer: SVP, Chief Technology Officer C/O CIENA CORPORATION, 7035 RIDGE ROAD, HANOVER MD 21076
Rick Hamilton officer: SVP, Software and Services 9500 AMBERGIEN, AUSTIN TX 78729
Moylan James E Jr officer: SVP Finance, CFO CIENA CORPORATION, 7035 RIDGE ROAD, HANOVER MD 21076
Judith M Obrien director 855 MAUDE AVENUE, MOUNTAIN VIEW CA 94043
Thomas Michael Nevens director C/O BORLAND SOFTWARE CORPORATION, 20450 STEVENS CREEK BLVD, SUITE 800, CUPERTINO CA 95014