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Ampco-Pittsburgh (Ampco-Pittsburgh) Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) : -1.75 (As of Dec. 2023)


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What is Ampco-Pittsburgh Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)?

In 1986 Berkshire Hathaway Shareholder Letter, Warren Buffett defined owner earnings as follows:

"These represent (a) reported earnings plus (b) depreciation, depletion, amortization, and certain other non-cash charges...less (c) the average annual amount of capitalized expenditures for plant and equipment, etc. that the business requires to fully maintain its long-term competitive position and its unit volume (If the business requires additional working capital to maintain its competitive position and unit volume, the increment also should be included in (c))...Our owner-earnings equation does not yield the deceptively precise figures provided by GAAP, since (c) must be a guess - and one sometimes very difficult to make. Despite this problem, we consider the owner earnings figure, not the GAAP figure, to be the relevant item for valuation purposes - both for investors in buying stocks and for managers in buying entire businesses...All of this points up the absurdity of the 'cash flow' numbers that are often set forth in Wall Street reports. These numbers routinely include (a) plus (b) - but do not subtract (c)."

Ampco-Pittsburgh's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) ended in Dec. 2023 was $-1.75. It's Price-to-Owner-Earnings ratio for today is 0.


The historical rank and industry rank for Ampco-Pittsburgh's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) or its related term are showing as below:


During the past 13 years, the highest Price-to-Owner-Earnings ratio of Ampco-Pittsburgh was 2386.25. The lowest was 3.01. And the median was 11.64.


AP's Price-to-Owner-Earnings is not ranked *
in the Industrial Products industry.
Industry Median: 23.27
* Ranked among companies with meaningful Price-to-Owner-Earnings only.

Ampco-Pittsburgh's Earnings per Share (Diluted) for the three months ended in Dec. 2023 was $-2.14. Its Earnings per Share (Diluted) for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Dec. 2023 was $-2.05. It's PE Ratio ratio for today is At Loss.

Ampco-Pittsburgh's EPS without NRI for the three months ended in Dec. 2023 was $-0.14. Its EPS without NRI for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Dec. 2023 was $-0.06. It's PE Ratio without NRI ratio for today is At Loss.


Ampco-Pittsburgh Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Historical Data

The historical data trend for Ampco-Pittsburgh's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) can be seen below:

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.

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Ampco-Pittsburgh Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Chart

Ampco-Pittsburgh Annual Data
Trend Dec14 Dec15 Dec16 Dec17 Dec18 Dec19 Dec20 Dec21 Dec22 Dec23
Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
Get a 7-Day Free Trial Premium Member Only Premium Member Only -0.97 0.91 0.21 0.52 -1.75

Ampco-Pittsburgh Quarterly Data
Mar19 Jun19 Sep19 Dec19 Mar20 Jun20 Sep20 Dec20 Mar21 Jun21 Sep21 Dec21 Mar22 Jun22 Sep22 Dec22 Mar23 Jun23 Sep23 Dec23
Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Get a 7-Day Free Trial Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only 0.52 0.53 0.37 0.35 -1.75

Competitive Comparison of Ampco-Pittsburgh's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)

For the Metal Fabrication subindustry, Ampco-Pittsburgh's Price-to-Owner-Earnings, along with its competitors' market caps and Price-to-Owner-Earnings data, can be viewed below:

* Competitive companies are chosen from companies within the same industry, with headquarter located in same country, with closest market capitalization; x-axis shows the market cap, and y-axis shows the term value; the bigger the dot, the larger the market cap. Note that "N/A" values will not show up in the chart.


Ampco-Pittsburgh's Price-to-Owner-Earnings Distribution in the Industrial Products Industry

For the Industrial Products industry and Industrials sector, Ampco-Pittsburgh's Price-to-Owner-Earnings distribution charts can be found below:

* The bar in red indicates where Ampco-Pittsburgh's Price-to-Owner-Earnings falls into.



Ampco-Pittsburgh Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Calculation

In 1986 Berkshire Hathaway Shareholder Letter, Warren Buffett defined owner earnings as follows:

"These represent (a) reported earnings plus (b) depreciation, depletion, amortization, and certain other non-cash charges...less (c) the average annual amount of capitalized expenditures for plant and equipment, etc. that the business requires to fully maintain its long-term competitive position and its unit volume. (If the business requires additional working capital to maintain its competitive position and unit volume, the increment also should be included in (c))...Our owner-earnings equation does not yield the deceptively precise figures provided by GAAP, since (c) must be a guess - and one sometimes very difficult to make. Despite this problem, we consider the owner earnings figure, not the GAAP figure, to be the relevant item for valuation purposes - both for investors in buying stocks and for managers in buying entire businesses...All of this points up the absurdity of the 'cash flow' numbers that are often set forth in Wall Street reports. These numbers routinely include (a) plus (b) - but do not subtract (c)."

To make it simple, then you will have:

Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) = (Net Income + Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization + Change In Deferred Tax - 5Y Average of Maintenance Capital Expenditure + Change In Working Capital) / Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average)

Ampco-Pittsburgh's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Calculation:

TTM / Last Quarter Average of Last 20 Quarters
Net Income -39.9
Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization 17.7
Change In Deferred Tax 0.0
5Y Average of Maintenance Capital Expenditure 12.3
Change In Working Capital 0.0
Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average) 19.7

1. Start with "Net Income" from income statement. Ampco-Pittsburgh's Net Income for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Dec. 2023 was $-39.9 Mil.

2. "Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization" is from cashflow statement. Ampco-Pittsburgh's Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Dec. 2023 was $17.7 Mil. This needs to be added back because company does not actually need to pay cash for it. It is a non-cash item.

3. Other non-cash charges usually include "Stock Based Compensation" and "Change In Deferred Tax":
However, to be conservative, GuruFocus will not add Stock Based Compensation back to net income. Ampco-Pittsburgh's Change In Deferred Tax for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Dec. 2023 was $0.0 Mil.

4. Average maintenance capital expenditure over a business/industry cycle: 5-Year Average Maintenance Capital Expenditure = $12.3 Mil

It is usually best to take a long-term average of maintenance capital expenditure. Ideally this would be as long as 10 years and include at least one economic downturn. However, since many companies do not have as long as 10-year history, here GuruFocus uses the latest 5 years data to do the calculation. To smooth out unusual years but reflect recent developments, we take an average of the 5 year maintenance capital expenditure.

The following shows how to get maintenance capital expenditure.

First, calculate the revenue change regarding to the previous quarter. If the revenue decreased from the previous quarter, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive).
Second, if the revenue increased from the previous quarter, then calculate the percentage of Net PPE as of corresponding Revenue.
Growth Capital Expenditure = Percentage of Property, Plant and Equipment as of corresponding Revenue * Revenue Increase
Third, calculate Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure.
If [Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure] was negative, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive).
If [Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure] was positive, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure.
Fourth, get the average of the 5 years maintenance capital expenditure.

Ampco-Pittsburgh's 5-Year Average Maintenance Capital Expenditure = $12.3 Mil

5. "Change In Working Capital" is from cashflow statement. Ampco-Pittsburgh's Change In Working Capital for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Dec. 2023 was $0.0 Mil.
Note: GuruFocus' Change in Working Capital is provided by Morningstar. It is calculated by adding the items under "Change in operating assets and liabilities" (may refer to a different name for different company) section in Cash Flow Statement from original financial report. And sometimes it includes non-current parts of assets and liabilities.

6. Ampco-Pittsburgh's Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average) for the months ended in Dec. 2023 was 19.728 Mil.

Ampco-Pittsburgh's Onwer Earnings Per Share for Dec. 2023 is calculated as:

Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
=( Net Income+Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization+Change In Deferred Tax
=( -39.928 +17.674+0
-5Y Avg of Maintenance CAPEX+Change In Working Capital )/Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average)
-12.250136455368+0)/19.728
=-1.75

Price-to-Owner-Earnings=Current Price/Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
=2.11/-1.75
=0

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.


Be Aware

Assumption: Companies usually do not report maintenance capital expenditures and growth capital expenditures separately. Here we use estimated numbers and average them over 5 years. The method to estimate maintenance capital expenditures can be found in above part 4.

Note: GuruFocus' Change In Working Capital is provided by Morningstar. It is calculated by adding the items under "Change in operating assets and liabilities" (may refer to a different name for different company) section in Cash Flow Statement from original financial report. And it includes non-current parts of assets and liabilities.


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Ampco-Pittsburgh (Ampco-Pittsburgh) Business Description

Traded in Other Exchanges
N/A
Address
726 Bell Avenue, Suite 301, Carnegie, PA, USA, 15106
Ampco-Pittsburgh Corp is a U,S.-based company manufacturing and selling engineered, specialty metal products and customized equipment. It operates in two business segments namely the Forged and Cast Engineered Products segment and the Air and Liquid Processing segment. The Forged and Cast Engineered Products segment produces forged hardened steel rolls, cast rolls, and open-die forged products. Forged hardened steel rolls are used in cold rolling mills by producers of steel, aluminum, and other metals whereas, the Air and Liquid Processing segment includes Aerofin, Buffalo Air Handling, and Buffalo Pumps. The company generates a majority of its revenue from the Forged and Cast Engineered Products segment. It has a business presence in the U,S and other countries.
Executives
Darrell L Mcnair director 726 BELL AVENUE, SUITE 301, CARNEGIE PA 15106
Frederick D. Disanto director 6060 PARKLAND, SUITE 200, CLEVELAND OH 44124
David George Anderson officer: President,Air&Liq. Proc. Group 726 BELL AVENUE, SUITE 301, CARNEGIE PA 15106
Robert Demichiei director 726 BELL AVE., SUITE 301, PO BOX 457, CARNEGIE PA 15106
Michael G Mcauley officer: CFO & Treasurer 1550 CORAOPOLIS HEIGHTS ROAD, SUITE 500, PITTSBURGH PA 15108
Louis Berkman Investment Co 10 percent owner 330 N. SEVENTH STREET, STEUBENVILLE OH 43952
Brett Mcbrayer director, officer: Chief Executive Officer 726 BELL AVENUE, SUITE 301, CARNEGIE PA 15106
Pforzheimer Carl H Ii director CARL H PFORZHEIMER & CO, 650 MADISON 23 FLOOR, NEW YORK NY 10022
Samuel Lyon officer: President of Union Electric C/O UNION ELECTRIC STEEL CORPORATION, 726 BELL AVENUE, CARNEGIE PA 15106
Elizabeth Anne Fessenden director 1137 WEST AVENUE, RICHMOND VA 23220
Crawford United Corp other: Member of 10% owner group 10514 DUPONT AVE, CLEVELAND OH 44108
Edward F Crawford other: Member of 10% owner group
2006 Irrevocable Trust Of Laura W. Van Loan For The Benefit Of Mary M. Crawford other: Member of 10% owner group 6065 PARKLAND BOULEVARD, CLEVELAND OH 44124
Altor Ii Aggregator Topco Ltd 10 percent owner 11-15 SEATON PLACE, ST. HELIER Y9 JE4 0QH
Terry L Dunlap director 1000 SIX PPG PLACE, PITTSBURGH PA 15222