Value Investing Congress; Guy Spier On Japanese equities And Good Partnerships

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Oct 17, 2010
Guy Spier gave a more unconventional presentation at the conference. His topic was the role of developing good partnerships.


Value investing has a place for everyone. Even if you just take John Bogle approach of trying to reducing your investment expenses you have made big progress. I thought this was a really important lesson


Guy spoke a bit about Li Lu who as mentioned here- http://www.valuewalk.com/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway/breaking-news-buffetts-successor-li-lu/ , is going to be Warren Buffett’s successor.


Guy recommends reading Li Lu’s book,Moving the Mountainir?t=valueinves08c-20&l=as2&o=1&a=0330315587.


Guy’s find returned 6% a year over S&P 500 since inception in 1997.


Guy thinks James Montier nailed a lot of behavioral finance and highly recommends his bookThe Little Book of Behavioral Investingir?t=valueinves08c-20&l=as2&o=1&a=0470686022, which was given out at the conference to all attendees for free (to read a more indepth book on behavioral finance by Montier check outBehavioural Finance: Insights into Irrational Minds and Marketsir?t=valueinves08c-20&l=as2&o=1&a=0470844876, andValue Investing: Tools and Techniques for Intelligent Investmentir?t=valueinves08c-20&l=as2&o=1&a=0470683597.


Guy says to place a sign up in your office “Invest Like A Champion Today”. Warren Buffett has this sign up in his office.


Guy Switzerland is making decisions now about how to keep up on infrastructure for the next 100 years. They do detailed schedules and look far ahead.


Why are not thinking the same way as Switzerland and China. That is the problem with the US.


Guy Spier read Michael Eisne’sWhy Great Partnerships Succeedir?t=valueinves08c-20&l=as2&o=1&a=0061732362. The lesson is that who you hang out with will have a profound impact on you. It lead Guy to a whole new understanding of the role of partnerships in shaping your investment out.


What is happening at the Berkshire meeting which is really an example of a great partnership.


Charlie Munger is a great man in his own right. In the book what comes out is that Munger has enough self confidence to be in the background of Buffett.


Warren is also a partner to many of his business subsidiary CEOs.


Getting into the right relationship will have a profound impact on your investing.


Tom Gayner and Steve Markel are also an example of a great partnership.


Tom Gayner never got down on his partner despite the disastrous acquisition of Markel.


Whitney Tilson has a great partner in Glenn Tongue. It allows each of them to do what they do best.


How to make a great investment partnership:



You have to let them make mistakes, and not let them get down on it.


Respect freedom of action.


Back to Swiss infrastructure. Making a checklist is important.


Getting into good relationships is very important for value investing. Guy says you should act like a great partner to find great partners.


Guy respects Jim Chanos and David Einhorn.


Chinese are looking to retire in Japan.


Guy likes Japanese equities.


Company Name

Market Capitalization (US$mm)

Enterprise Value

Dividend Yield

Net Cash


US$ m

LTM Ebit

Industry

Shingakukai

60

(22)

4%

82

7.5

Coaching Schools and Sports Clubs

Clip Corporation

$38

(4)

4%

42

10.5

Coaching Schools

Nippon Road

186

(32)

4%

218

76

Construction and Engineering

Nihon Dengi

57

(1.5)

5%

58.5

17

Air conditioning systems

Daiichi Kensetsu Corp

125

(28)

3%

153

52

Construction and Real Estate

Hokkaido Bus Company

74

(12)

2%

88

13

Bus Routes

Otaki Gas

73

5

2%

68

23

Gas Distribution

Heian Ceremony Service Co.

67

8

4%

59

15.5

Wedding and Funeral Services





A lot of companies are trading below cash. They have been profitable the past few years.


Guy likes some of the following as a basket. He has trouble investing in Japanese small caps since they are very hard to analyze. However, Guy likes the stocks as a basket.


Guy says liquidity today is not important today but is when you get out. (I thought this was a very good line, and shows some real wisdom by Spier)


Guy does not care much about businesses when you are getting them for lower than their net cash.


Guy started thinking about Africa as the Chinese started investing there. Guy looked at Nigeria, but it was very hard to analyze.


However, if you run a screen on Joel Greenblatt’s site you can also find cheap values that are much easier to analyze.


Guy brings Holland as an example which used to be a great empire and no longer is. But it is still a great place to live, has a high standard of living, and this is similar to the situation in Japan and US. We will still have a high standard of living regardless of current economic problems.


Guy is never short. He likes to hold some cash. He wants partners as investors.


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