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Must Read: Nassim Taleb on The Earth-Quake in Japan

Mar 16, 2011
I do not remember who I received this article from, but I loved it. Everyone is now talking about Black Swans in regards to the uprisings in the Middle East and the horrific Earthquake in Japan. Taleb who is an expert in Black Swans is not surprised by these events. He wrote (before the Quake) about how Black Swans are becoming much more frequent. As I mention in this article I recommend reading all of Taleb’s books; The Black Swan, Fooled by Randomness, and “ The Bed of Procrustes”.

At the end of 2010 when everyone was making their “2011 predictions”, I did not join in the chorus. Everyone was wrong! Not one person predicted this earthquake in Japan in 2010. I stated many times that no one knows what events the year will bring. Of course, I did not predict any of these events. I merely predicted that events would happen that no one would predict at the time, but in hindsight would say it was obvious, this is the definition of a black swan event. Taleb sums it up beautifully below, but I will add one more word of caution to investors; never say never, and the next Black Swan could be in one minutes, one day, one year, and very likely within the next few years. Always, keep the possibility of any Black Swan, you will not be able to even guess what the event will be, but be prepared!

With that I leave you Taleb’s comments:

(I’ve received close to 600 requests for interviews on the “Black Swan” of Japan. Refused all (except for one). I think for a living & write books not interviews. This is what I have to say.)

The Japanese Nuclear Commission had the following goals set in 2003: ” The mean value of acute fatality risk by radiation exposure resultant from an accident of a nuclear installation to individuals of the public, who live in the vicinity of the site boundary of the nuclear installation, should not exceed the probability of about 1×10^6 per year (that is , at least 1 per million years)”.

That policy was designed only 8 years ago. Their one in a million-year accident occurred about 8 year later. We are clearly in the Fourth Quadrant there.

I spent the last two decades explaining (mostly to finance imbeciles, but also to anyone who would listen to me) why we should not talk about small probabilities in any domain. Science cannot deal with them. It is irresponsible to talk about small probabilities and make people rely on them, except for natural systems that have been standing for 3 billion years (not manmade ones for which the probabilities are derived theoretically, such as the nuclear field for which the effective track record is only 60 years).

1) Small probabilities tend to be incomputable; the smaller the probability, the less computable. (Forget the junk about “Knightian” uncertainty, all small probabilities are incomputable). (See TBS, 2nd Ed., or Douady and Taleb, Statistical undecidability, 2011.)

2) Model error causes the underestimation of small probabilities & their contribution (on balance, because of convexity effects). Any model error, just as any undertainty about flying time causes the expected arrival to be delayed (you rarely land 4 hours early, more often 4 hours late on a transatlantic flight, so “unforeseen” disturbances tend to delay you). See my argument about second order effects with my paper. [INTUITION: uncertainty about the model used for calculation of random effects causes a second layer of randomness, causing small probabilities to rise on balance].

3) The problem is more acute in Extremistan, particularly the manmade part. The probabilities are undestimated but the consequences are much, much more underestimated.

4) As I wrote, because of globalization, the costs of natural catastrophes are increasing in a nonlinear way.

5) Casanova problem (survivorship bias in probability): If you compute the frequency of a rare event and your survival depends on such event not taking place (such as nuclear events), then you underestimated that probability. See the revised note 93 on ??????.

6) Semi-technical Example: to illustrates the point (how models are Procrustean beds):

Take for example the binomial distribution with B[N, p] probability of success (avoidance of failure), with N=50. When p moves from 96% to 99% the probability quadruples. So small imprecision around the probability of success (error in its computation, uncertainty about how we computed the probability) leads to enormous ranges in the total result. This shows that there is no such thing as “measurable risk” in the tails, no matter what model we use.

(I’ve received close to 600 requests for interviews on the “Black Swan” of Japan. Refused all (except for one). I think for a living & write books not interviews. This is what I have to say.)

The Japanese Nuclear Commission had the following goals set in 2003: ” The mean value of acute fatality risk by radiation exposure resultant from an accident of a nuclear installation to individuals of the public, who live in the vicinity of the site boundary of the nuclear installation, should not exceed the probability of about 1×10^6 per year (that is , at least 1 per million years)”.

That policy was designed only 8 years ago. Their one in a million-year accident occurred about 8 year later. We are clearly in the Fourth Quadrant there.

I spent the last two decades explaining (mostly to finance imbeciles, but also to anyone who would listen to me) why we should not talk about small probabilities in any domain. Science cannot deal with them. It is irresponsible to talk about small probabilities and make people rely on them, except for natural systems that have been standing for 3 billion years (not manmade ones for which the probabilities are derived theoretically, such as the nuclear field for which the effective track record is only 60 years).

1) Small probabilities tend to be incomputable; the smaller the probability, the less computable. (Forget the junk about “Knightian” uncertainty, all small probabilities are incomputable). (See TBS, 2nd Ed., or Douady and Taleb, Statistical undecidability, 2011.)

2) Model error causes the underestimation of small probabilities & their contribution (on balance, because of convexity effects). Any model error, just as any undertainty about flying time causes the expected arrival to be delayed (you rarely land 4 hours early, more often 4 hours late on a transatlantic flight, so “unforeseen” disturbances tend to delay you). See my argument about second order effects with my paper. [INTUITION: uncertainty about the model used for calculation of random effects causes a second layer of randomness, causing small probabilities to rise on balance].

3) The problem is more acute in Extremistan, particularly the manmade part. The probabilities are undestimated but the consequences are much, much more underestimated.

4) As I wrote, because of globalization, the costs of natural catastrophes are increasing in a nonlinear way.

5) Casanova problem (survivorship bias in probability): If you compute the frequency of a rare event and your survival depends on such event not taking place (such as nuclear events), then you underestimated that probability. See the revised note 93 on ??????.

6) Semi-technical Example: to illustrates the point (how models are Procrustean beds):

Take for example the binomial distribution with B[N, p] probability of success (avoidance of failure), with N=50. When p moves from 96% to 99% the probability quadruples. So small imprecision around the probability of success (error in its computation, uncertainty about how we computed the probability) leads to enormous ranges in the total result. This shows that there is no such thing as “measurable risk” in the tails, no matter what model we use.

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traderatwork
Traderatwork - Mar 16, 2011 at 9:55 PM
To me Taleb's book is full of Sx. Some thing will happen, so? The next second San Francisco will have a bigger earth quake than Japan, so? Tomorrow giant asteroid will hit Arizona desert and all human extinct in 2 years, so? Stop reading his books. What a waste of paper and my lost 4 hours and $20+, I'm still angry.
superguru
Superguru - Mar 16, 2011 at 11:41 PM
Taleb's book becoming bestseller - definitely a "Black Swan".
EarthQuake and Tsunami in Japan - a black swan event - You got to be kidding me.
superguru
Superguru - Mar 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM
I wonder how does Ajit Jain of Berkshire and his team model these probabilities and premium he must charge.

Has Ajit ever published or spoken any thing?
yswolinsky
Yswolinsky - Mar 17, 2011 at 7:33 AM
#1 Taleb's point is that A. these events are becoming more common B. you must be aware of what can occur.

#2 That is exactly what a black swan is, in hindsight it is all obvious.

#3 I am not sure and would love to know how Berkshire, which has far smarter people than me or Taleb asses these risks.

I am surprised how unpopular this article is. I thought Taleb had some very good insights, and he would be the #1 person I would want to ask about this.
apologeticquant
Apologeticquant - Mar 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM
Taleb has confused the mean fatality risk per person with the probability of at least one fatality. He's not exactly big on the mean however, as you can experience for yourself by betting on long-shots all day long.

Life your game, people.

[www.xtranormal.com]
ssalz
Ssalz - Mar 17, 2011 at 9:34 AM
I am not sure that the EQ in Japan was really a Black Swan. Since Japan is on a fault line, and there have been many quakes before this one, I don't think that it qualifies as a "Black" Swan. I think that it would qualify as a "Grey" Swan. Only the severity makes it an outlier. We doctors have to empirically think this way. We learn to be humble in our decisions because unlike lawyers (3 of my kids are lawyers and so are some of my best friends) we don't know the outcomes in advance of our decisions. I thought that Taleb's book was probably one of the best books that I have ever read and re-read and underlined....

Dr. Steve
superguru
Superguru - Mar 17, 2011 at 10:40 AM
Medical Profession is one where a doctor makes his best effort and then it is "God's will" or some color swan.

Common term for these black/grey/white/blue/green/red... swans is "God's Will". People have it used from centuries and you can apply probability and statistics theory to it if you wish to.

But in general I learned, to my shock as I grew up believing otherwise, writing books (or getting Nobel Prize like in case of LTCM or EMT, CAMT) does not make one expert. In fact in my profession, most people who are writing books and conducting coaching/training are the people who know the least.

I trust more people like Buffett, Ajit Jain, Seth Klarman, Watsa etc who are the practitioners of the art.

I do not know much about Taleb, so cannot comment on him and he might be an real expert on "God's Will".
sww
Sww - Mar 17, 2011 at 11:04 AM
We value investors think margin of safety and humble by what we know and what we can't know but unlike Taleb spent thousands of word telling people randomness is not really randomness you will fail to prepare because you can't prepare. What's the point? For Japan unfortunate earth quake we call it natural disaster, Microsoft, Google and facebook success we call them successful business model. Taleb will tell you - Wooo.... Ahhhh... this is something out there - black swan event...woo ahh... you can't predict it, blah blah... For those who did not read his books go to library and read it if you want to waste your valuable hours of your life I dislike his book so much I just throw them in my garbage bag, next time I might think of giving to somebody that I dislike :)

Sivaram
Sivaram - Mar 17, 2011 at 11:49 AM

The problem I have with Taleb is that his thoughts are non-actionable (at least for investors; it may be different for policymakers and others). As someone above says, "so what?" can be said of Taleb's main points. For instance, Japan is on a heavily vulnerable earthquake zone so how does this impact anything? Everyone living in Japan has known this for a century or more. Owners of businesses pretty much know it is in an earthquake zone. And so forth.

Having said all that, if Taleb's goal is to eliminate how people quantify probabilities--one in a million for example--I think he is doing a good job. I see so many people say things like, "this will only happen once in a million," and it is complete nonsense.

Gangstarr
Gangstarr - Mar 17, 2011 at 12:05 PM
IMHO, surprise events that cannot be predicted, i.e. black swans, are a given in life. Life on earth could potentially be considered a black swan event. Like M. El-Erian and the "new normal", I think that Taleb is getting credit for pointing out the obvious. Life and the markets are highly variable and unpredictable. As value investors we accept that we cannot predict the future and attempt to take advantege when variability in the markets creates opportunities. There will always be a new normal, there will always be unpredictable events, and they have always occurred with frequency. Thank you Nassim and Mohamed for pointing out that the sky is blue more often than not.
jrhubbard
Jrhubbard - Mar 17, 2011 at 12:15 PM
I would disagree that his ideas are not actionable. He has a hedge fund that is structured to benefit from underpriced long-tail risk. I have also heard him recommend shorting long-duration treasuries if you believe that some unknowable event will cause significant financial damage to the United States. He says that specific events that have not been encountered before are unknowable, however, you can still protect against them with "anti-fragile" systems that benefit from stress. You can still understand the predispositions of the world (i.e. many unknowable bad events could all result in financial stresses (credit crises, resource-driven wars, significant inflation) that would require the U.S. to pay significantly more for others to hold its debt, thus you short long-duration treasuries).

Also, to clarify, Taleb did not say that the earthquake in Japan was a black swan, he said that the effect of the earthquake on the nuclear power station was a black swan. People can predict that earthquakes will happen over time with some frequency because we have data on that phenomenon. What we do not have data on (until last week) is the likelihood that an earthquake will cause a partial meltdown in a nuclear reactor.
yswolinsky
Yswolinsky - Mar 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM

"IMHO, surprise events that cannot be predicted, i.e. black swans, are a given in life. Life on earth could potentially be considered a black swan event. Like M. El-Erian and the "new normal", I think that Taleb is getting credit for pointing out the obvious. Life and the markets are highly variable and unpredictable. As value investors we accept that we cannot predict the future and attempt to take advantege when variability in the markets creates opportunities. There will always be a new normal, there will always be unpredictable events, and they have always occurred with frequency. Thank you Nassim and Mohamed for pointing out that the sky is blue more often than not."

I think you summed up in a few sentences what would have taken me several paragraphs to write. IMHO you summed up my exact thoughts in a succinct manner.
superguru
Superguru - Mar 17, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Jacob - Looks like most of us do not get this "Black Swan" thing like you do. May be an article on what it means to you and why you think it is so important from your perspective would be nice.

To keep things in perspective, I was in Tokyo in 1996 for 3 months, And we got multiple earth quakes and Tsunami in those 3 months I was there. I still went to Tokyo and will go again once Japan is back to normal. I love that place. But I had an earth quake kit, directions to shelter and my wallet and passport next to me every night I slept.

California is expected to get an severe earth quake, no when knows when. I do not have earth quake insurance and live there.

Yes When I go out I can meet an accident and get injured. I do not drive an armored Military vehicle or wear an armor when I go out. But I drive a safe vehicle with belt on and drive under speed limit.
sabonis
Sabonis premium member - Mar 17, 2011 at 12:28 PM

The Japanese study states that the odds are rare of an "acute fatality risk by radiation exposure resultant from an accident of a nuclear installation".

I dont believe anyone has actually died from radiation from the Tokyo nuclear plants. I think there may have been a death from an explosion, but not from radiation.

If nobody has died, why is he saying the study is a failure after only 8 years?
superguru
Superguru - Mar 17, 2011 at 12:36 PM
"Also, to clarify, Taleb did not say that the earthquake in Japan was a black swan, he said that the effect of the earthquake on the nuclear power station was a black swan."


At least this one makes me feel better. - " Oh You fell down the stairs and broke your bone, that's god's will"
yswolinsky
Yswolinsky - Mar 17, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Super you bring up good points. It is hard to read through all the threads here. I am not an expert on black swans, but off the top of my head I would describe it as "an unexpected, unforseen event to the observer themself (there are cases, not natural disasters, but like wars where it will only be unforseen to one side not the other) that has a massive effect, but in hindsight will seem obvious to most observers"
superguru
Superguru - Mar 17, 2011 at 1:47 PM
"an unexpected, unforseen event to the observer themself (there are cases, not natural disasters, but like wars where it will only be unforseen to one side not the other) that has a massive effect, but in hindsight will seem obvious to most observers"

Lol. Sounds like some marketer wrote that.

Black Swan then by definition is specific to an observer who missed it while rest of the world may have actually seen it coming. So what may be Black Swan event to you may not be black swan to me.

Also, so while you claim something to be black swan rest everyone is thinking "what an idiot he is. Go back to your cave." (LTCM) or "He is using black swan word to hide his incompetency and save his job" (Like most everyone did in this financial crash - We did not see it coming - Black Swan.While everyone on street was talking about a big crash two years before it actually happened though many kept dancing while music was playing anyway.)
superguru
Superguru - Mar 17, 2011 at 1:54 PM
Thanks for being polite Jacob, but my points are not good points. It is a stupid, time wasting discussion on stupid time wasting term - Black swan. it is incredible hard to have a meaningful discussion on black swan.

That's why I am interested in learning how Buffett. Munger and Ajit Jain sees these outliers events and model them. May be you can try to interview one of those next.
jrhubbard
Jrhubbard - Mar 17, 2011 at 10:03 PM
For all the confusion here, it is actually a very simple concept. Taleb's problem lies in the difference between someone saying "there is an X% probability that an 8.0+ earthquake will hit in the vicinity of Japan over Y amount of time" (we have enough data on earthquakes to project a forecast with a confidence interval, even if that interval may be quite wide) and someone saying "there is an X% probability that nuclear containment will be breached at a Japanese nuclear power station over Y amount of time" (yes I know this is not what he said, this is meant as an example; the problem is that we do not - and can not - know what conditions will lead to this event because we lack an adequate representative sample).

If you want to get a little more technical, his point could probably be thought of as twofold:
1) We cannot make a forecast where confidence around the chain of causation degrades to become useless (we may know that earthquakes will happen, but we do not know how many will cause tsunamis, or how many tsunamis are likely to knock out power at nuclear power stations, or how many nuclear power stations without power are likely to progress to partial meltdowns).
2) We cannot know the probability - even approximately - of anything that has not yet been experienced (this is actually a rephrasing of #1).

I believe this is why Berkshire does not write "no-limit" policies on reinsurance; they may be quite good at judging the known, but they exercise modesty in regard to the unknowable by pricing conservatively and writing limits.
Moathunter
Moathunter - Mar 21, 2011 at 9:39 AM
If you build a nuclear plant on the coastline that faces one of the most active earthquakes zones in the world, and earthquake magnitude is repeatedly said to follow a power law distribution so the probability of a 8+ Richter scale is virtually unknowable (because you have no historical data), and you install back-up diesel generators to cool the power plant in the event of an emergency, but you’ve never tested the operation of those back-up generators during flood conditions and so they promptly fail due to the Tsunami…

Even a plain little investor recognises these major unknown risks.

The Fukushima plant probably used the same brand of generators as back ups, installed by the same contractor and in the same location, using the same diesel supply pipe and same method to activate them… endless correlated risk upon correlated risk.

Just as the outcome of losing investment money is terrible to compounding, so too is the outcome of a nuclear meltdown to the surrounding people, so an inordinate focus on risk is needed. Buffett has spoken about figuring how a company could destroy itself before you invest For the next power plant under construction, give some diverse people $50k each for thinking of ways to destroy it.

Managing risk is costly and inefficient, what with all the back up contingencies, the huge margins of safety, the grossly overengineered walls to withstand Tsunamis higher than 2 metres, the mechanism in place that would utterly contain all radiation in an emergency (but with the downside that the plant can never be reactivated again). So this cost may reduce the viability of future power plants, or perhaps such costs and subsequent safety record could actually enhance the future viability of nuclear power.
The alternative, of helicopters dropping a little water spray, reminds of the phrase involving urinating into the wind.

2 years from the latest stock market crash, are we all focussing on risk as closely as we did back in the pit of March ’09? I bet a lightweight book on how nuclear plants manage their risk might have principles of use to investing, in the same way that hospital procedures (Gawande’s checklists) and aeroplane take offs (Spier/ Pabrai and pilot checklists) do.

Farnamstreetblog.com has an interesting article on this subject of nuclear power plant risk.
nicks652
Nicks652 - Apr 03, 2011 at 10:07 PM

People here saying Fukushima wasn't a black swan, remember that's exactly what happens after black swans, everybody start saying it was obvious danger, something had o be done about it... just the magnitude etc, just two planes hitting two towers... the "improbability" of such magnitude is the characteristic that makes this otherwise not so extraordinary event a black swan.
sww
Sww - Apr 06, 2011 at 6:27 PM
nicks652: "_People here saying Fukushima wasn't a black swan, remember that's exactly what happens after black swans, everybody start saying it was obvious danger, something had o be done about it... just the magnitude etc, just two planes hitting two towers... the "improbability" of such magnitude is the characteristic that makes this otherwise not so extraordinary event a black swan."

So, what's your point? what can we learn from this "black swan" event? Do we not building any nuclear plant in any country? or Do we build every nuclear plant to be able to withstand 10.0+ earth quake since there will be 'black swan' anyway. or what should mankind do.

Share us your wisdom. Personally I think Taleb's "black swan" is bs, I still it is.

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