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Finet Group (HKSE:08317) Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) : -0.02 (As of Mar. 2023)


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What is Finet Group Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)?

In 1986 Berkshire Hathaway Shareholder Letter, Warren Buffett defined owner earnings as follows:

"These represent (a) reported earnings plus (b) depreciation, depletion, amortization, and certain other non-cash charges...less (c) the average annual amount of capitalized expenditures for plant and equipment, etc. that the business requires to fully maintain its long-term competitive position and its unit volume (If the business requires additional working capital to maintain its competitive position and unit volume, the increment also should be included in (c))...Our owner-earnings equation does not yield the deceptively precise figures provided by GAAP, since (c) must be a guess - and one sometimes very difficult to make. Despite this problem, we consider the owner earnings figure, not the GAAP figure, to be the relevant item for valuation purposes - both for investors in buying stocks and for managers in buying entire businesses...All of this points up the absurdity of the 'cash flow' numbers that are often set forth in Wall Street reports. These numbers routinely include (a) plus (b) - but do not subtract (c)."

Finet Group's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) ended in Mar. 2023 was HK$-0.02. It's Price-to-Owner-Earnings ratio for today is 0.


The historical rank and industry rank for Finet Group's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) or its related term are showing as below:


During the past 13 years, the highest Price-to-Owner-Earnings ratio of Finet Group was 69.11. The lowest was 2.55. And the median was 11.90.


HKSE:08317's Price-to-Owner-Earnings is not ranked *
in the Business Services industry.
Industry Median: 12.43
* Ranked among companies with meaningful Price-to-Owner-Earnings only.

Finet Group's Earnings per Share (Diluted) for the three months ended in Sep. 2023 was HK$-0.01. Its Earnings per Share (Diluted) for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Sep. 2023 was HK$-0.02. It's PE Ratio ratio for today is At Loss.

Finet Group's EPS without NRI for the three months ended in Sep. 2023 was HK$-0.00. Its EPS without NRI for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Sep. 2023 was HK$-0.01. It's PE Ratio without NRI ratio for today is At Loss.


Finet Group Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Historical Data

The historical data trend for Finet Group's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) can be seen below:

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.

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Finet Group Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Chart

Finet Group Annual Data
Trend Mar14 Mar15 Mar16 Mar17 Mar18 Mar19 Mar20 Mar21 Mar22 Mar23
Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
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Finet Group Quarterly Data
Dec18 Mar19 Jun19 Sep19 Dec19 Mar20 Jun20 Sep20 Dec20 Mar21 Jun21 Sep21 Dec21 Mar22 Jun22 Sep22 Dec22 Mar23 Jun23 Sep23
Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Get a 7-Day Free Trial Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only - - -0.02 - -

Competitive Comparison of Finet Group's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)

For the Specialty Business Services subindustry, Finet Group's Price-to-Owner-Earnings, along with its competitors' market caps and Price-to-Owner-Earnings data, can be viewed below:

* Competitive companies are chosen from companies within the same industry, with headquarter located in same country, with closest market capitalization; x-axis shows the market cap, and y-axis shows the term value; the bigger the dot, the larger the market cap. Note that "N/A" values will not show up in the chart.


Finet Group's Price-to-Owner-Earnings Distribution in the Business Services Industry

For the Business Services industry and Industrials sector, Finet Group's Price-to-Owner-Earnings distribution charts can be found below:

* The bar in red indicates where Finet Group's Price-to-Owner-Earnings falls into.



Finet Group Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Calculation

In 1986 Berkshire Hathaway Shareholder Letter, Warren Buffett defined owner earnings as follows:

"These represent (a) reported earnings plus (b) depreciation, depletion, amortization, and certain other non-cash charges...less (c) the average annual amount of capitalized expenditures for plant and equipment, etc. that the business requires to fully maintain its long-term competitive position and its unit volume. (If the business requires additional working capital to maintain its competitive position and unit volume, the increment also should be included in (c))...Our owner-earnings equation does not yield the deceptively precise figures provided by GAAP, since (c) must be a guess - and one sometimes very difficult to make. Despite this problem, we consider the owner earnings figure, not the GAAP figure, to be the relevant item for valuation purposes - both for investors in buying stocks and for managers in buying entire businesses...All of this points up the absurdity of the 'cash flow' numbers that are often set forth in Wall Street reports. These numbers routinely include (a) plus (b) - but do not subtract (c)."

To make it simple, then you will have:

Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) = (Net Income + Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization + Change In Deferred Tax - 5Y Average of Maintenance Capital Expenditure + Change In Working Capital) / Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average)

Finet Group's Owner Earnings per Share (TTM) Calculation:

Last Year Average of Last 5 Years
Net Income -16.34
Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization 4.35
Change In Deferred Tax 0.00
5Y Average of Maintenance Capital Expenditure 0.27
Change In Working Capital -2.93
Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average) 803.77

1. Start with "Net Income" from income statement. Finet Group's Net Income for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Mar. 2023 was HK$-16.34 Mil.

2. "Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization" is from cashflow statement. Finet Group's Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Mar. 2023 was HK$4.35 Mil. This needs to be added back because company does not actually need to pay cash for it. It is a non-cash item.

3. Other non-cash charges usually include "Stock Based Compensation" and "Change In Deferred Tax":
However, to be conservative, GuruFocus will not add Stock Based Compensation back to net income. Finet Group's Change In Deferred Tax for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Mar. 2023 was HK$0.00 Mil.

4. Average maintenance capital expenditure over a business/industry cycle: 5-Year Average Maintenance Capital Expenditure = HK$0.27 Mil

It is usually best to take a long-term average of maintenance capital expenditure. Ideally this would be as long as 10 years and include at least one economic downturn. However, since many companies do not have as long as 10-year history, here GuruFocus uses the latest 5 years data to do the calculation. To smooth out unusual years but reflect recent developments, we take an average of the 5 year maintenance capital expenditure.

The following shows how to get maintenance capital expenditure.

First, calculate the revenue change regarding to the previous year. If the revenue decreased from the previous year, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive).
Second, if the revenue increased from the previous year, then calculate the percentage of Net PPE as of corresponding Revenue.
Growth Capital Expenditure = Percentage of Property, Plant and Equipment as of corresponding Revenue * Revenue Increase
Third, calculate Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure.
If [Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure] was negative, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive).
If [Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure] was positive, then the Maintenance Capital Expenditure = Capital Expenditure (positive) - Growth Capital Expenditure.
Fourth, get the average of the 5 years maintenance capital expenditure.

Finet Group's 5-Year Average Maintenance Capital Expenditure = HK$0.27 Mil

5. "Change In Working Capital" is from cashflow statement. Finet Group's Change In Working Capital for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Mar. 2023 was HK$-2.93 Mil.
Note: GuruFocus' Change in Working Capital is provided by Morningstar. It is calculated by adding the items under "Change in operating assets and liabilities" (may refer to a different name for different company) section in Cash Flow Statement from original financial report. And sometimes it includes non-current parts of assets and liabilities.

6. Finet Group's Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average) for the months ended in Mar. 2023 was 803.768 Mil.

Finet Group's Onwer Earnings Per Share for Mar. 2023 is calculated as:

Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
=( Net Income+Depreciation, Depletion and Amortization+Change In Deferred Tax
=( -16.341 +4.354+0
-5Y Avg of Maintenance CAPEX+Change In Working Capital )/Shares Outstanding (Diluted Average)
-0.2666+-2.929)/803.768
=-0.02

Price-to-Owner-Earnings=Current Price/Owner Earnings per Share (TTM)
=0.105/-0.02
=0

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.


Be Aware

Assumption: Companies usually do not report maintenance capital expenditures and growth capital expenditures separately. Here we use estimated numbers and average them over 5 years. The method to estimate maintenance capital expenditures can be found in above part 4.

Note: GuruFocus' Change In Working Capital is provided by Morningstar. It is calculated by adding the items under "Change in operating assets and liabilities" (may refer to a different name for different company) section in Cash Flow Statement from original financial report. And it includes non-current parts of assets and liabilities.


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Finet Group (HKSE:08317) Business Description

Traded in Other Exchanges
N/A
Address
77-79 Gloucester Road, 30th Floor, Fortis Tower, Wanchai, Hong Kong, HKG
Finet Group Ltd is an investment holding company. The company has four business segments namely Financial Information, Advertising and Investor Relationship Service Business; Securities and Futures Business; Money Lending Business; and Property Investment Business. The Financial Information, Advertising and Investor Relationship Service Business segment involves in the development, production, and provision of financial information services and technology solutions to investors, corporate and retail clients. The Securities and Futures segment specializes in the provision of online securities and futures trading. The Money Lending Business segment engages in lending. The Property Investment segment involves in the real estate business.
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