Release Date: May 01, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Positive Points
- HF Sinclair Corp (DINO, Financial) delivered strong results in marketing, midstream, and lubricants and specialties businesses, with sequential improvement in refining.
- The company completed the planned turnaround at the Tulsa Refinery on schedule and on budget, now operating at planned rates.
- The marketing segment achieved a record quarter with $27 million in EBITDA and the highest quarterly adjusted gross margin of $0.12 per gallon.
- The lubricants and specialties segment reported a strong quarter with $85 million in EBITDA, supported by product mix optimization and high-margin specialty sales.
- The midstream business generated a record $119 million in adjusted EBITDA, benefiting from higher pipeline revenues.
Negative Points
- HF Sinclair Corp (DINO) reported a first-quarter net loss attributable to shareholders of $4 million, or negative $0.02 per diluted share.
- Adjusted net loss for the first quarter was $50 million, compared to adjusted net income of $142 million for the same period in 2024.
- The refining segment's first-quarter adjusted EBITDA was $8 million, down from $209 million in the first quarter of 2024, due to lower adjusted refinery gross margins and sales volumes.
- The renewable segment reported an adjusted EBITDA of negative $17 million, impacted by lower sales volumes and the absence of producer's tax credit benefits.
- Net cash used for operations totaled $89 million in the first quarter, including $105 million of turnaround spending.
Q & A Highlights
Q: Can you explain the strong performance in the midstream business despite asset transfers?
A: Steve Ledbetter, EVP of Commercial, noted that the growth was driven by increased focus on products and crude pipelines, along with revenue from tariffs. The integration of HEP into HF Sinclair's portfolio has allowed for optimization and unlocking value across refining, midstream, and marketing segments.
Q: How resilient is the lubricants business, and what are the growth prospects?
A: Matt Joyce, SVP of Lubricants and Specialties, highlighted the business's stability due to its focus on high-growth markets like mining and pharmaceuticals. The strategy of integrating base oils into specialty applications has been successful, and there are opportunities for organic growth and potential bolt-on acquisitions.
Q: What is the current demand outlook in the refining segment?
A: Steve Ledbetter, EVP of Commercial, stated that demand is relatively flat, with positive signs in gasoline. The decrease in sales was mainly due to turnaround activities. The company is optimistic about demand patterns and refining margins as the driving season approaches.
Q: How is the renewable diesel segment managing regulatory changes and feedstock optimization?
A: Steve Ledbetter explained that no tax credits were recognized in Q1 due to regulatory uncertainty. The team managed to reach breakeven EBITDA without credits, and future clarity on regulations is expected to improve the business's performance.
Q: What is the strategy for the marketing segment given its strong performance?
A: Steve Ledbetter noted that the marketing segment achieved record EBITDA by optimizing the business and expanding the branded store network. The company expects to maintain an annual EBITDA run rate of $75 million to $85 million, with potential for growth as more stores are added.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
