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LPSN (LivePerson) Operating Income : $-88.6 Mil (TTM As of Sep. 2024)


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What is LivePerson Operating Income?

LivePerson's Operating Income for the three months ended in Sep. 2024 was $-14.6 Mil. Its Operating Income for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Sep. 2024 was $-88.6 Mil.

Operating Margin % is calculated as Operating Income divided by its Revenue. LivePerson's Operating Income for the three months ended in Sep. 2024 was $-14.6 Mil. LivePerson's Revenue for the three months ended in Sep. 2024 was $74.2 Mil. Therefore, LivePerson's Operating Margin % for the quarter that ended in Sep. 2024 was -19.65%.

Warning Sign:

LivePerson Inc operating margin has been in a 5-year decline. The average rate of decline per year is -19.3%.

LivePerson's 5-Year average Growth Rate for Operating Margin % was -19.30% per year.

Operating Income or EBIT is linked to Return on Capital for both regular definition and Joel Greenblatt's definition. LivePerson's annualized ROC % for the quarter that ended in Sep. 2024 was -10.43%. LivePerson's annualized ROC (Joel Greenblatt) % for the quarter that ended in Sep. 2024 was -54.95%.


LivePerson Operating Income Historical Data

The historical data trend for LivePerson's Operating Income can be seen below:

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.

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LivePerson Operating Income Chart

LivePerson Annual Data
Trend Dec14 Dec15 Dec16 Dec17 Dec18 Dec19 Dec20 Dec21 Dec22 Dec23
Operating Income
Get a 7-Day Free Trial Premium Member Only Premium Member Only -84.99 -60.03 -89.87 -201.92 -86.43

LivePerson Quarterly Data
Dec19 Mar20 Jun20 Sep20 Dec20 Mar21 Jun21 Sep21 Dec21 Mar22 Jun22 Sep22 Dec22 Mar23 Jun23 Sep23 Dec23 Mar24 Jun24 Sep24
Operating Income Get a 7-Day Free Trial Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only Premium Member Only -26.72 -28.99 -27.21 -17.78 -14.59

LivePerson Operating Income Calculation

Operating Income, is the profit a company earned through operations. All expenses, including cash expenses such as cost of goods sold (COGS), research & development, wages, and non-cash expenses, such as depreciation, depletion and amortization, have been deducted from the sales.

Operating Income for the trailing twelve months (TTM) ended in Sep. 2024 adds up the quarterly data reported by the company within the most recent 12 months, which was $-88.6 Mil.

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.


LivePerson  (NAS:LPSN) Operating Income Explanation

1. Operating Income or EBIT is linked to Return on Capital for both regular definition and Joel Greenblatt's definition.

LivePerson's annualized ROC % for the quarter that ended in Sep. 2024 is calculated as:

ROC % (Q: Sep. 2024 )
=NOPAT/Average Invested Capital
=Operating Income * ( 1 - Tax Rate % )/( (Invested Capital (Q: Jun. 2024 ) + Invested Capital (Q: Sep. 2024 ))/ count )
=-58.36 * ( 1 - -1.83% )/( (570.143 + 569.427)/ 2 )
=-59.427988/569.785
=-10.43 %

where

Invested Capital(Q: Jun. 2024 )
=Total Assets - Accounts Payable & Accrued Expense - Excess Cash
=Total Assets - Accounts Payable & Accrued Expense - ( Cash, Cash Equivalents, Marketable Securities - max(0, Total Current Liabilities - Total Current Assets+Cash, Cash Equivalents, Marketable Securities))
=703.768 - 74.924 - ( 145.957 - max(0, 161.739 - 220.44+145.957))
=570.143

Invested Capital(Q: Sep. 2024 )
=Total Assets - Accounts Payable & Accrued Expense - Excess Cash
=Total Assets - Accounts Payable & Accrued Expense - ( Cash, Cash Equivalents, Marketable Securities - max(0, Total Current Liabilities - Total Current Assets+Cash, Cash Equivalents, Marketable Securities))
=692.026 - 77.869 - ( 142.104 - max(0, 168.529 - 213.259+142.104))
=569.427

Note: The Operating Income data used here is four times the quarterly (Sep. 2024) data.

2. Joel Greenblatt's definition of Return on Capital:

LivePerson's annualized ROC (Joel Greenblatt) % for the quarter that ended in Sep. 2024 is calculated as:

ROC (Joel Greenblatt) %(Q: Sep. 2024 )
=EBIT/Average of (Net fixed Assets + Net Working Capital)
=EBIT/Average of (Property, Plant and Equipment+Net Working Capital)
     Q: Jun. 2024  Q: Sep. 2024
=EBIT/( ( (Property, Plant and Equipment + Net Working Capital) + (Property, Plant and Equipment + Net Working Capital) )/ count )
=-58.36/( ( (107.208 + max(-91.057, 0)) + (105.218 + max(-101.624, 0)) )/ 2 )
=-58.36/( ( 107.208 + 105.218 )/ 2 )
=-58.36/106.213
=-54.95 %

where Working Capital is:

Working Capital(Q: Jun. 2024 )
=(Accounts Receivable + Total Inventories + Other Current Assets) - (Accounts Payable & Accrued Expense + Defer. Rev. + Other Current Liabilities)
=(56.351 + 0 + 13.955) - (74.924 + 79.356 + 7.083)
=-91.057

Working Capital(Q: Sep. 2024 )
=(Accounts Receivable + Total Inventories + Other Current Assets) - (Accounts Payable & Accrued Expense + Defer. Rev. + Other Current Liabilities)
=(49.947 + 0 + 16.703) - (77.869 + 75.606 + 14.799)
=-101.624

When net working capital is negative, 0 is used.

Note: The EBIT data used here is four times the quarterly (Sep. 2024) EBIT data.

3. Operating Income is also linked to Operating Margin %:

LivePerson's Operating Margin % for the quarter that ended in Sep. 2024 is calculated as:

Operating Margin %=Operating Income (Q: Sep. 2024 )/Revenue (Q: Sep. 2024 )
=-14.59/74.244
=-19.65 %

* For Operating Data section: All numbers are indicated by the unit behind each term and all currency related amount are in USD.
* For other sections: All numbers are in millions except for per share data, ratio, and percentage. All currency related amount are indicated in the company's associated stock exchange currency.

4. Please click Growth Rate Calculation Example (GuruFocus) to see how GuruFocus calculates Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT)'s revenue growth rate. You can apply the same method to get the Operating Income growth rate using Operating Income per share data.


Be Aware

Compared with a company's EBITDA margin, Operating Margin can be manipulated by adjusting the rate of depreciation, depletion and amortization (DDA).

If a company is facing competition, its Operating Margin may decline. Often the Operating Margin declines well before the company's revenue or even profit decline. Therefore, Operating Margin is a very important indicator of whether the company is facing problems.

For instance, by 2012, Nokia (NOK)'s problems were well known and its stock had lost more than 90% of its market value since 2007. But Nokia's Operating Margin had already been in decline since 2002, although its earnings per share were still rising. Investors who paid attention to Operating Margin would have avoided this huge loss. The same can be said for Research-in-Motion (RIMM).

Therefore, Operating Margin is a very important screening filter for GuruFocus. GuruFocus's Buffett-Munger screener requires that the profit margin is either consistent or expanding. The Model Portfolio of the Buffett-Munger screener has outperformed the market every year since inception in 2009.


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LivePerson Business Description

Traded in Other Exchanges
Address
530 7th Avenue, Floor M1, New York, NY, USA, 10018
LivePerson Inc is the enterprise leader in digital customer conversation.. The Conversational Cloud, the Company's enterprise-class digital customer conversation platform, is trusted by the world's top brands to accelerate their contact center transformation, orchestrate conversations across all channels, departments and systems, increase agent productivity, and deliver more personalized, AI-empowered customer experiences. The company has a presence in the United Kingdom, Asia-Pacific, Latin America, and Europe.
Executives
John Deneen Collins officer: Chief Financial Officer LIVEPERSON, INC., 475 TENTH AVENUE, 5TH FLOOR, NEW YORK NY 10018
Jeffrey Ford officer: Chief Accounting Officer 530 7TH AVE., FLOOR M1, NEW YORK NY 10018
Monica L. Greenberg officer: EVP, General Counsel LIVEPERSON, INC., 462 SEVENTH AVENUE 3RD FLOOR, NEW YORK NY 10018
Alex Kroman officer: EVP, Product and Technology 530 7TH AVE., FLOOR M1, NEW YORK NY 10018
Vanessa Pegueros director C/O CARBON BLACK, INC., 1100 WINTER STREET, WALTHAM MA 02451
William Wesemann director 130 MONTALVO ROAD, REDWOOD CITY CA 94062
Norman M. Osumi officer: Chief Accounting Officer C/O LIVEPERSON, INC., 475 TENTH AVENUE, 5TH FLOOR, NEW YORK NY 10018
Robert P Locascio director, 10 percent owner, officer: Chief Executive Officer C/O LIVEPERSON INC, 462 SEVENTH AVENUE, NEW YORK NY 10018
James R. Miller director 4050 EAST COTTON CENTER BLVD. 6-68, PHOENIX AZ 85040
Bruce Edward Hansen director 17732 VINEYARD LANE, POWAY CA 92064
Yael Zheng director 345 ENCINAL STREET, SANTA CRUZ CA 95060
Alexander Spinelli officer: EVP, Chief Technology Officer LIVEPERSON, INC., 475 TENTH AVENUE, 5TH FLOOR, NEW YORK NY 10018
Kevin Lavan director 44 HILLCREST ROAD, MARTINSVILLE NJ 08836
Ernest T. Cu director LIVEPERSON, INC., 475 TENTH AVENUE, 5TH FLOOR, NEW YORK NY 10018
Daryl Carlough officer: SVP, Global & Corp Controller BEDMINSTER ONE, 135 US HIGHWAY 202/206, SUITE 11, BEDMINSTER NJ 07921